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Met a flat coated retriever yesterday...

at this SPCA fundraising thing. A very obese one at that. But it's the first flattie that I've been lucky enough to meet and the owner seemed like a nice guy. So my friend with her dog is talking to him and I ask him (thinking, poor severely overwieght dog, maybe she's just old) what kind of dog she is - she's a flattie. Oh, I say, related to goldens, I have a golden. And the man says, I kid you not - Well, I had always wanted a golden but I wanted to stay away from designer dogs. I take a breath and tell him, Goldens aren't designer dogs, they are a breed. And he goes, oh yeah, well, they are just so popular they are like designer dogs. He's saying this and my friend is standing there with her golden doodle looking not so happy. I so wanted to say after the golden comment - so how much do you feed your dog because she could seriously stand to go on a diet. But I didn't. When I found out she was only 3 I really wanted to say something along those lines all the more.

So like, has anyone told a complete stranger that their dog is obese and that they should look into putting their dog on a diet? I am thinking back to yesterday and wishing I had the guts to say that for the dogs sake. It's not like I'll ever see the man again so what do I care if he thinks I'm an ignoramus?

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I was at a party yesterday where a guest had brought their KC Cavalier Spaniel. Would never had guessed the breed other than I know the owner. He was obese and shaved. I wanted to say "What are you thinking?" but kept my mouth shut. People know when their dog is overweight, telling them isn't going to change it.

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You can always say 'wow, never seen a dog that fat in a long time' or 'that's not fluffy' or 'my aunt had a dog like that, she never did get his wieght down and he died so young, it was sad' and leave it at that.

Although honestly, most people will know their dogs are fat and just not bother to do much, or figure it's not a big deal, or go with the 'loose one pound a year' thing. Heard on the radio too that the 'diet' dog foods are the worst as they are loaded with carbs so the dog doesn't loose much anyhow. Interesting!

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I bet the guy wanted a "unique" dog breed and thus all his huffing and puffing about "designer breeds" and popular breeds. It's hard to say "I wanted a rare dog breed so I could feel special that I own something few people have" so he went with his nonsense you described above. That's exactly why my aunt and uncle got a chesapeake bay retriever - because no one else in the family had ever had one, or heard of one, so they enjoyed being "special". When asked why they hadn't just gotten a lab or golden or something, they began to sputter and spew the same nonsense. "In breeding", "cancer", "too common"...Ha!

Poor doggie though. I hate seeing obese dogs waddling around. Breaks my heart.

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I know just how you feel MomtoMax. I met a golden at the park and this guys golden was way overweight, easily twice as wide as my boy. He was going on and on about how people only give their goldens one cup of food per feeding...ummmm that would be me. He knew who I was because he said "Hey, you're the lady with the skinny golden". I really wanted to say something but I could see that it would fall on deaf ears.
Instead I felt like I had to defend myself and explained that my boy does get one cup per feeding but that he gets fed twice a day plus treats a few times a day and a snack of frozen dog food in a marrow bone in the evening. I doubt anything I had to say would change his mind on feeding his dog less.


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I know just how you feel MomtoMax. I met a golden at the park and this guys golden was way overweight, easily twice as wide as my boy. He was going on and on about how people only give their goldens one cup of food per feeding...ummmm that would be me. He knew who I was because he said "Hey, you're the lady with the skinny golden". I really wanted to say something but I could see that it would fall on deaf ears.
Instead I felt like I had to defend myself and explained that my boy does get one cup per feeding but that he gets fed twice a day plus treats a few times a day and a snack of frozen dog food in a marrow bone in the evening. I doubt anything I had to say would change his mind on feeding his dog less.
Have you always fed one cup per feeding? Our vet has Milo on 2 cups twice a day. He doesn't get many treats, maybe 1 or 2 milkbones a day. I'm wondering if I am over feeding Milo?

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It depends on the calorie content of the food so don't judge by "cups" judge by calories/cup and figure out what amount of calories is right for your dog.

For example, Jack's food is 425 kcal/cup. He weighs 64 lbs. We feed hom 1.5 cups twice a day (1275 calories) because we're trying to get him to gain about 1/2 lb. right now. Before that he was on 1.25 cups (1062.5 calories) twice a day. And Jack doesn't really get any treats besides kibble (and then we deduct it from his feeding) and is fairly active. If Milo isn't overweight and isn't gaining weight on what you're feeding him then he's probably fine.

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A few weeks ago at the vet Milo weighed 74 pounds I think and he is still probably gaining because he is still growing right? They didn't say he was over weight though. He is on Fromm Chicken A La Veg right now, the website says it's kcal/cup: 370. Is the 2 cups twice a day okay? Maybe I should cut it back since he isn't getting much exercise right now?

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To a complete stranger, I probably wouldn't have the guts to point out their dog is overweight. Most of the time they will say something along the lines of "oh, my dog is much bigger than yours!" (pointing out that Molson's skinny) and I just say "oh we keep him lean, it's better for the hips not to mention he gets a ton of exercise and a leaner dog is a healthy dog".

My mom's GR is about 10lbs overweight. I've told them many times before and they just think that I underfeed Molson. Skoker does get TONS of exercise in the summers (he lives at the cottage with my stepdad and spends multiple hours a day swimming, does about 10K of hiking daily, not to mention his addiction to the game of fetch where he plays non stop allllll afternoon and evening!), but I know he's being overfed and it really bugs me.

We watched him for 3 weeks last year when my parents went on vacation and in the meantime I put Skoker on a diet (10cal/lb of ideal weight) and he joined Molson and I for 2 daily walks of an hour each. In just the 3 weeks, he must have lost 3 or 4 lbs. My mom came home and said "wow! he looks great! what did you do?" I told them and she said she would keep it up but my stepdad kept feeding him all the extra food. *sigh* you can't win.
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Yep, Ranger would be a fat-fattie if my dad was in charge of feeding him. When he was on kibble, dad said he wasn't getting enough food. I told him the kibble he's getting is higher calorie than the food our other dogs used to eat. Now that ranger is on raw, he's getting about 1.5 lbs a day and dad still thinks he's not getting enough. I told my dad that until I can walk again, ranger can't get a ton of food - so now my dad bikes with ranger almost every evening!

I had a hard time telling my brother that his dog was too fat. They were still feeding him 4 cups of orijen a day even once he was done growing and Blue was getting tubby! Luckily, they listened (i had a thread about it in the other pets section) and now Blue is back down to a healthy weight.

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