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Does anyone have a toller, for a pet? Does anybody have knowledge of breeders?
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No to the pet myself, but know a bit of the breed as well as some breeders...

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Tollers are neat little dogs. I don't have one but spent some time next to a couple at the mall demo a few weeks back.

One of the top breeders is Java Hill. They would at least be a good starting point, and could probably make recommendations

http://tollerzone.com/

They have a blog as well

http://javahill.blogspot.com/

And there is a national club, as with Goldens

http://www.nsdtrc-usa.org/

You can get a listing of breeders sent to you from the national club, as well as read up on health and genetic issues, what to look for in a breeder, etc.

They are not Goldens in a smaller package

Are you looking for a pet, a hunting dog or a competition dog?

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I have met quite a few Tollers and traveled to train field work with a Toller breeder.

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Tell me what you know about them, how do they differ from goldens, besides size, i am only thinking, but would like to know more about them.
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Of course individuals within a breed will differ, but here are the major differences I've found between the average Toller and the average Golden:

Tollers tend to be more reserved around strangers, they don't have that "everyone in the world is my best friend" mentality.

Tollers are often more independent thinkers than Goldens. They're more likely to want to do things their way than the golden, who is more willing to happily go along with whatever the owner wants.

Tollers make a noise that sounds like a scream.

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They can be very determined, when we've had them in for boarding we have to keep moving them from playgroup to playgroup as the males anyway tend to want to mount/hassle other dogs to the point of being attacked - and they will still keep trying. Same with anything they get their mind on, they will keep at it regardless of what's going on.

Training wise they're usually fairly soft and easy to train (apart from the determined single minded thing). I think the girls are a bit better on that end of things anyway.

They do make a lot of noise too, not a quiet dog but not so much the barking as the yodeling/screaming/yelping kinda noises they can make.

All of them have been very sweet with people and good that way, not as in your face as a golden would be usually but well mannered and polite (they might not jump in your lap without asking but if you invite them they'll come flying!).

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And then there's the toller scream.

There are several in New England that I'd admire - and I did research the breed before I decided to get another golden as a performance dog.

While they don't love everybody they aren't likely to be dog reactive/aggressive like some of the other sporting breeds. I like the size and energy level. But I'd consider most of them to have a higher energy level (and exercise requirement) than the average golden.

Good brains, nice workers...The scream though....you've got to experience it.

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Good brains, nice workers...The scream though....you've got to experience it.
LOL, yep, try being out in the field with a truck full of 'em ready for their turn. Of course the Toller breeder probably had similar thoughts when she heard Conner's moan-bark wanting his turn. It's so pathetic sounding.

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And I don't know if it's a breed characteristic or just total coincidence, but every single toller I have ever seen in obedience has had a no-sit problem.

I do think they're nice dogs, I had even looked into getting one, but I decided to stick with the goldens.

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