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Doodle Rant

I’m still ranting over my encounter last night and several times over the last few weeks. I keep getting asked while on walks with Harper if she’s a golden doodle. Say what??? They’re neighbors so I’m trying to keep the snobby and snotty factor down but it’s seriously annoying me. “Ohhh, well I have a golden doodle.” I also get the English Cream question—nope, she’s a California import. The first time I was just totally caught off guard and discounted it. Now it’s happened so many times that I’m trying to decide my appropriate but educational response. Her picture is posted below. She exudes breed type-ha!

So then I was thinking about it more and why it bugs me so much. The other side’s argument is that all dogs start somewhere-even goldens were a blend of different breeds. Other new breeds develop them with careful care attention to health and other characteristics that they’re breeding for and they do the appropriate health testing and use the very best breeding stock. That isn’t happening, and really can’t happen, in doodles since no reputable poodle, lab or golden breeder is going to sell to a doodle breeder. I've looked up quite a few, including each time someone I know casually gets one, and they're virtually never health tested.

I also can’t for the life of me understand why people don’t just get a standard poodle if they want a dog that doesn’t shed. A doodle owner commented on my FB post (before subsequently blocking me after my golden friends educated her)—she didn’t want the “snootiness” of a poodle or a dog that would chew. First, standard poodles aren’t snooty, they’re amazing dogs with all the qualities a doodle owner is looking for…and the odds of getting a mixed breed dog with ONLY the BEST qualities from each is just preposterous to me. This was a smart person too—going on about double doodles, etc. I just think it’s so ridiculous. You can get a health tested poodle, guarantee that they won’t shed, they were bred to be a sporting dog, they get along with kids, you know the pedigrees and temperament but they’re going for the doodles instead….and they’ve become so popular that everyone assumes that golden retriever puppies must be doodles or want to tell you all about why their doodle is better than a golden. Oooffff…
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This also drives me crazy, as I hear "is your dog a mix?" On a weekly basis. My dog doesn't fall amongst the breed standard as your dog does but it's still irritating. It's to the point where I'm just very blunt "No, she is just more petite and on the darker end of the golden spectrum". That ususally shuts them up. I don't think your dog at all looks like a doodle so I can't see where they are coming from. I get the Irish setter, duck retriever quite a lot on my girl. I do hear "why don't you just get a doodle" and that is another battle. Your right, doodles aren't bred to a standard and I think they are really just this decades phase. Kind of like "teacup mixes" were in the early 2000's. They are cute, don't get me wrong but if I am paying that kind of money for a dog it better be to a standard.
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Regarding the "why don't you just get a doodle" question; because I don't want to support irresponsible breeding or be forced to groom my dog every 2 months. Sure I have to brush and bath my goldens on occasion but I never have to trim the fur on their face so they can see.

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I wouldn't take offense. Not everyone is up on dog breeds and what they look like. The maintenance man when we moved asked if Chloe was a lab. I just said nope a golden. He goes oh that makes sense. Same thing with the English cream. Not everyone is up on everything when it comes to dogs.

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There is this breeder that keeps popping up on my Facebook that is selling labradoodles for $1900. Just ridiculous. These dogs arent even cute. He isn't even breeding full poodle and lab. He is breeding the labradoodles. People are going crazy wanting one in the comments. As long as people are going to spend and go to a breeder like this they won't go away. I do think goldendoodles are cute. Especially when a mini poodle is used. But to spend money on a mutt is stupid.

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I don't get the whole doodle craze either. I work at a dog training facility and I have yet to meet a doodle I like, and I've met a lot of them. They're all high strung and crazy and they tend to be really dumb. Plus their face beards get gross.

I've gotten the doodle and lab comments before. I don't get it because I think Kaizer is very type-y. He also gets called a girl all the time, so I don't really put stock into what the general pet public says All golden and other breed people I've met have always commented that he has a very masculine head, and those are the opinions I care about.
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I don't get the whole doodle craze either. I work at a dog training facility and I have yet to meet a doodle I like, and I've met a lot of them. They're all high strung and crazy and they tend to be really dumb. Plus their face beards get gross.

I've gotten the doodle and lab comments before. I don't get it because I think Kaizer is very type-y. He also gets called a girl all the time, so I don't really put stock into what the general pet public says All golden and other breed people I've met have always commented that he has a very masculine head, and those are the opinions I care about.
I had to laugh because I know a couple who owns a Golden Retriever and later added a GoldenDoodle to their family. They comment all the time that their Golden was easy to train but that their Doodle is dumber than a post.
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Interestingly kids never seem to get it wrong. When we go out with our dogs grownups say the weirdest most random thing. Kids almost always go, “Look at the Golden Retriever”.


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I got golden doodle once when my girl was a puppy. I am always asked what kind of dog she is when I take her out. She is small but within standard. Inevitably, I get a story about so and so’s 90 pound golden. I tell them that she is about the size they are supposed to be. The best wrong guess I’ve heard would have to be English Shepherd!
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I don't get the whole doodle craze either. I work at a dog training facility and I have yet to meet a doodle I like, and I've met a lot of them. They're all high strung and crazy and they tend to be really dumb. Plus their face beards get gross.
Kind of harsh especially from someone who works with dogs.

I have a ton of customers with Doodles that I really like. They're not stupid at all. Yeah some are high strung, but that's with all breeds. My employer has a Doodle and she's really sweet. Smart, too. And this is the Doodle puppy I puppy sat and she was really bright. She was very respectful of Chance and learned the ways of our routine within a day. I think she's darling, but everyone has their own opinion.
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