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Thank y'all so much for the info and compliments. She is an amazing well behaved gentle dog with humans i wish i could show her off more but she has some slight dog aggression. I've always refered to her has a Labra collie lol but im thinking about running her dna has anyone ever done this before and if so what's your opinion on that?
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Thank y'all so much for the info and compliments. She is an amazing well behaved gentle dog with humans i wish i could show her off more but she has some slight dog aggression. I've always refered to her has a Labra collie lol but im thinking about running her dna has anyone ever done this before and if so what's your opinion on that?
They are not very conclusive tests. I've read where people take the test for their purebred Lab and it came back with westie and some other breeds.
It could be fun but I wouldn't trust all it says.

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Most dogs who look like black Goldens are actually a Golden mixed with some other coated breed since a Golden/Lab mix is almost always short coated (the long coat is recessive). They frequently turn out black since yellow is recessive and black is dominant however a solid colored coat is dominant to a non solid coat, so if the non-Golden parent is black (or has the genetics for black), the pups will turn out black (with some discrete markings possibly).

Flat-Coats are rare and have a distinct look that is very recognizable as not a Golden.

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Most dogs who look like black Goldens are actually a Golden mixed with some other coated breed since a Golden/Lab mix is almost always short coated (the long coat is recessive). They frequently turn out black since yellow is recessive and black is dominant however a solid colored coat is dominant to a non solid coat, so if the non-Golden parent is black (or has the genetics for black), the pups will turn out black (with some discrete markings possibly).

Flat-Coats are rare and have a distinct look that is very recognizable as not a Golden.
Absolutely agree.

I train with a few flatcoat people and their dogs look nothing like goldens. Their heads and expressions are different. Their bodies are completely different. Their coats are very different.

Temperament - they again are very different and not to be confused with goldens.

The dog in the OP - looks very much like a retriever/spaniel/border collie mix to me. Very pretty and unique all the same.

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She could be a lab/collie mix or another mix, or she could be a Flat Coated Retriever. How tall is she and how much does she weigh?

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The body proportions and head shape are wrong for a Flattie. So it is more likely a golden mix, possibly with a spaniel or collie.

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I wonder what "Shalva" would say since they own and used to breed Flat coated retrievers themselves!

I do what I like and like what I do. Yorkies- Cozy (4/1/06), Roxy & Zoey (2/11/08), Lucy (4/6/09); Golden- Buddy (4/13/09- Rescued 12/11) Maine Coon cats- Mika (1998) and Tallulah (2000)
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I wonder what "Shalva" would say since they own and used to breed Flat coated retrievers themselves!
You'll have to look her up on Facebook to get the answer....


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Isn't she still a member here?

I thought she just got busy and stuff.

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Isn't she still a member here?

I thought she just got busy and stuff.
Don't know the details, but she's said she's only on Facebook now.


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